Posts Tagged ‘shoot down’

Joe Giambrone

This opinion piece will contain speculation or “conspiracy theory,” and so you can move on if you don’t like that sort of thing…

I’m not claiming that Iran fired any missiles at the Ukrainian passenger plane; that’s the New York Times and Bellingcat. But, assuming their video shows unaltered footage of Iranian anti-aircraft SAMs shooting down Ukraine Flight 752, then we must ask the obvious question: WHY?

The very first possible reason screams out, and that is that Iran must have thought it was an attacking warplane over Tehran, and with only moments to decide, they shot quickly. But, why would the Iranian military think that a civilian plane was an attacking warplane? That is the big question in this possible scenario, and it represents a major threat to civil aviation worldwide.

Other civilian airliners around the Middle East have been put at risk recently in the following way. In December, 2018, Russia accused Israel of using civilian airliners as cover for their attacking warplanes:

“The provocative actions of the Israeli air force … directly threatened two airliners,” Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said in a statement.

In another incident, Israeli planes attacked Syrian ground targets in a way that the Russians said caused Syria’s air defense missiles to strike a Russian surveillance plane that was in the same area. This air defense response killed fifteen Russian airmen.

“The [Russian] spokesman accused Israeli pilots of “using the Russian airplane as a cover”, putting it “in the line of fire coming from Syrian air defence systems”.

These two precedents establish that military strategists are always looking for ways to game the enemy into using his anti-aircraft missiles against him, so to speak. Getting the enemy to shoot down the wrong plane is a standard military ploy, and perhaps a war crime.

Civilian planes are identified by their radio signatures. They continually broadcast data identifying them as friendly, or, in the case of military aircraft, they can turn off transponder signals and be unknown—giving away as little information to the enemy as possible.

Radio jamming has been around since the second World War. It is not impossible that the Ukraine jet was targeted for some sort of radio jamming in order to confuse the Iranians into thinking it was an attacking enemy warplane and quickly shooting it down. The incident would clearly be blamed on Iran alone, as the “conspiracy theory” is nearly impossible to prove, and the Iranians aren’t going to admit to shooting missiles at all, just as they have denied the use of missiles ever since the incident occurred.

This scenario seems plausible enough. While pundits allude to Iran making a “mistake,” this absolves any conspirators who may have engaged in deliberate radio jamming in order to bait the Iranians into shooting down the wrong plane. The propaganda value of casting the Iranians as monsters, and also angering Ukrainians, Canadians, and other nations which had civilians on board, are clear motives to inspire such a crime.

Lastly, it makes no sense that Iran would warn the US about its missile launches hours in advance in order to avoid casualties, while deliberately shooting down a plane load of innocent civilians on the same day.

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Israel Downs Iranian Drone, Strikes Syria; Israeli F-16 Shot Down

 

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The terrorists have anti-aircraft MANPADS, courtesy of CIA? Saudis?

Russian Su-25 jet downed in Syria, pilot killed – Defense Ministry

A Russian Su-25 jet has crashed in Idlib province in north-western Syria, the Russian Defence Ministry confirmed, adding that it was probably shot down by MANPAD. The pilot ejected but was killed by militants on the ground.

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Russia to treat US jets in Syria as ‘targets’ after America guns down first regime warplane

 

Washington said the jet had dropped bombs near US-backed forces but Damascus said the plane was downed while flying a mission against Isis militants.

Russia’s Defence Ministry said the suspension of its communication line with the Americans would begin immediately.

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Dutch media sue govt, demand it release full info on MH17 crash

That multi-nation secret deal to keep the findings secret is apparently all true. The Kiev Nazi coup regime of Yatsenyuk has veto power over releasing any findings.

The Netherlands Broadcasting Foundation (NOS); the Dutch subsidiary of the European TV, radio and production company RTL Group; and the Dutch daily Volkskrant have joined forces to appeal the Netherlands Security and Justice Ministry’s refusal to make public “many documents” concerning the Malaysian Airlines MH17 crash in Eastern Ukraine last year, NOSsaid in a press release.

From the start it has appeared the Kiev junta had deliberately shot down the airliner in order to demonize their opponents, the Russian-backed separatists in the east, those who reject their violent coup of February 2014. Plenty of evidence suggests the coup regime deliberately cooked up this atrocity, and the most glaring piece of the puzzle is an apparent PSYOP, one which appears at the NY Times:

Kiev’s evidence of militia’s responsibility for airliner crash faked – expert

A detailed reading of what was “faked” sheds light on what actually happened. It also points at premeditation and cold blooded mass murder. The NY Times and western corporate press claim that these audio clips are:

“phone calls between rebels and Russian officers after the downing of Malaysia Airlines 17.
-NY Times

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In fact audio analysis shows that the calls were not about MH-17 at all, but were recorded the previous day concerning the downing of an SU-25 fighter plane some 60 miles away…

“At the same time, the name of the town of Yenakiyevo is clearly heard in the tape. However, the town is located about 100 km (60 miles) from the settlement of Snezhnoye where the Malaysian Boeing-777 airliner crashed.

Bezler said the talk had really taken place but the he had talked about a Ukrainian attack aircraft shot down by the militia above Yenakiyevo a day before the Malaysian airliner crash.”
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So in the case of Pravda vs. the New York Times the American public is obviously going to (mindlessly) side with the US propaganda organ and completely ignore the actual evidence: the recordings exist and are up for anyone to analyze. The US “intelligence community” (sic) has been conspicuously silent about this psyop.

I have called it a PSYOP because it was obviously used to confuse the rebels and broadcast to them so that they would believe this fabricated recording concerned MH-17. Rebels in the field were then interviewed with what seem to be incriminating statements. The rebels themselves fell for the PYSOP. However, the recording was never true in the first place. It concerned a different shoot down of a different plane!

Add to this the memorandum of understanding that the Dutch have signed with the Ukrainian coup regime–that the Nazi junta has veto power over releasing the final report to the public–and we have very suspicious circumstances indeed.

Russia vetoes MH17 tribunal draft at UN Security Council

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Journalists’ Complicity in Hiding Those Guilty for MH17 Malaysian Airline Crash

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Russian investigators reveal identity of key witness in MH17 crash

Aircraft mechanic testifies that Ukraine Air Force shot down the plane.

The aircraft returned to the airfield with empty ammunition. To his colleagues, Voloshin said that the plane was “at the wrong time or in the wrong place,” said the Investigative Committee spokesman.

“Our jets were flying regularly,” Agapov said in his testimony.“When one returned, the pilot, Captain Voloshin, got out of the cockpit.” He added that, as Captain Voloshin walked away with the other pilots, Agapov heard him say: “That was the wrong plane.”

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…While the neo-Nazi Ukraine junta (the culprit) is included.

The Malaysian Insider cited Malaysian scholar Dr. Chandra Muzaffar who believes the decision to exclude his country from the investigation is politically motivated, aiming at excluding members that may urge caution and objectivity instead of draw conclusions first and bend the investigation’s results around those conclusions. In particular, Dr. Muzaffar believes that the investigations is intentionally being skewed to target Russia.

MH17: Malaysia’s Barring from Investigation Reeks of Cover-up

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The previous Youtube clip was also censored. This version may also be taken down at any time. It shows eyewitnesses to the shoot down of the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine talking about a military jet in the same airspace as the airliner.

There has been no credible evidence that any separatist-controlled “Buk missile” shot down the plane, and this is simply the claim of the neo-nazi Kiev coup regime. Propaganda has substituted for hard facts.

Russia’s Union of Engineers put out a paper that the fighter jet brought down the airliner, and no hard evidence can dispute that assessment. In their view the Malaysian plane was attacked from a rising jet fighter, at the front. The fighter, possibly an SU-25, opened up with 30mm guns directly at the nose of the airliner killing the crew before they could radio for help or describe what was going on. After that initial attack, the Russians believe the fighter turned to follow MH-17 and fired air to air missiles to finish off the doomed aircraft.

RT reported on this BBC censorship:

Censorship or error? Internet criticism for BBC removal of MH17 report

The report on the Malaysian plane tragedy by BBC Russian correspondent Olga Ivshina was released on July 23. She interviewed local witnesses who told her that they saw military aircraft in the sky before the incident.

“And there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it [the Malaysian plane]. Everybody saw it,” said one witness.

“It was flying under it [the Malaysian plane], we could see it. It was going underneath the civilian one,” added another.

Russian radar data from two different monitoring stations also shows the fighter jet approach the passenger plane to within 3-5km:

Poroshenko, the oligarch in chief, blatantly lied about the presence of the Ukraine fighter jet. The Kiev regime continues to hide the Air Traffic Control communications.

But the nail in the coffin of the Nazi putsch regime is the altered course of the Malaysian jetliner. Ten previous flights had it avoiding the war zone flying south over the Sea of Azov. But for some unexplained reason, on this particular day — with censored Air Traffic Control tapes — the plane was ordered right over a hot war zone where a military transport plane was already shot down days before. This is THE most damning piece of evidence of all. Because no matter who actually shot it down, the Kiev regime is responsible for putting the plane there in harm’s way. They have full responsibility for creating the incident.

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Malaysian News:

KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.

This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.

US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft

 Previously:

MH17: Pockmarks look like from very, very heavy machine gun fire, says first OSCE monitor on-scene

 

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The audio provided by the Kiev coup regime has been deemed a fraud made up of numerous unrelated snippets of recordings. This fraud is published at NY Times, BBC and around the world, because it seems to blame the Ukraine separatists for the airliner shootdown. This is modern war propaganda concocted by intelligence services to sell to gullible western publics.

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A group of experts studied the tape and came to the conclusion that it was made up of numerous unrelated recordings

Kiev’s evidence of militia’s responsibility for airliner crash faked – expert

Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said.

The tape’s linguistic analysis also shows that those who made the faked tape clearly didn’t have enough material and time, the expert said.

That is why, speech fragments can hardly correlate with each other in terms of their sense and the spectral picture of audio materials also differs, the expert said.

But the most indicative moment is that the audio tape clearly shows that it was created almost a day before the airliner crash, the expert said.